The Truth About Amazon to eBay Arbitrage

Amazon to eBay Arbitrage

Have you ever bought an item on eBay then received a package from Amazon, with a gift receipt inside?

Maybe you’ve come across DS Domination, or another site like it, promising to teach you how to run an automated ecommerce business?

Or if you’ve dug deeper you may have found tools for repricing eBay listings when prices change on Amazon, or even for automatically purchasing items from Amazon.

If you’ve encountered any of those, you’ve dipped a toe in the frankly murky world of “Amazon to eBay arbitrage”. In this post I’m going to explore it in depth. Yes, it’s dominated by get-rich-quick schemes, but that’s only part of the story. Beneath all that, there’s an interesting phenomenon going on, with innovative technology available and genuine businesses in operation.

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From Pocket Money to Spending Millions on Amazon

British scientist Ben Hovell started arbitrage selling on eBay in 2008. He bought an item on eBay, only to have it arrive in a box from Amazon.co.uk. Ben then discovered that the item was cheaper on Amazon than on eBay, and pieced together what had happened:

  1. He purchased the item on eBay
  2. The eBay seller purchased the item from Amazon, and entered Ben’s address for delivery
  3. Amazon shipped the item
  4. The eBay seller kept the difference

It’s important to understand that this isn’t Fulfillment by Amazon (FBA) and the seller does not purchase the item in advance. The key is that the item is only bought from Amazon once a sale has been made on eBay. Amazon is effectively being used as a drop-shipper.

Having understood the basics, Ben decided to get into the arbitrage selling business himself:

Hard drives were very expensive at the time, so I listed ten on eBay and copied the prices from Amazon, with a bit added on. Then I sold one, which was wonderful. I sold another one a week later, which was wonderful again.

The next sale did not go as smoothly. The price had gone up on Amazon, and he lost money on the sale. Amazon actually makes millions of price changes every day, which creates a major challenge for arbitrage sellers. But Ben stuck with it, checking Amazon’s prices every morning and changing his price on eBay accordingly.

The next step was creating a piece of software to check Amazon prices three times a day and if they had changed, create an upload for eBay’s File Exchange system to update the prices. With this automation in place, Ben scaled up his business, and had hundreds of eBay listings running:

It had gone from a hobby to a little more serious. We are talking about £100 or £200 in profit per week. Not a living, but worth having. I realised my constraint on growth was twofold: one, I needed more eBay listings and two, I needed to update prices more frequently.

Next Ben commissioned more powerful software to check prices every hour, and found a company in India to outsource the work of writing eBay listings. Both constraints were resolved, and the business “just ballooned and ballooned.”

Sales were growing rapidly, and both eBay and PayPal fees started to go down thanks to volume discounts. By using an Amex credit card with cash-back, the Amazon purchase price was in effect lowered by 1.5%, reducing costs further. At this point Ben employed someone for 2 to 3 hours per day to place orders on Amazon – up to fifty a day – and was making tens of thousands of pounds in profit a year. He was spending millions of pounds on Amazon.

What did he sell? Anything and everything on Amazon’s bestsellers lists, as long as it was priced between £50 and £500. There was no other market research – listing was so cheap it just wasn’t worth refining it further. He’d list everything on eBay for the Amazon price plus a percentage and a fixed “fee”, a kind of commission for handling the transaction.

But then things changed:

It got increasingly difficult to buy. Amazon said “hey, this isn’t for personal use”, and stopped me from buying. I don’t know why it happened, there’s no dialogue there. There are ways to get around it but I decided that it wouldn’t last forever and went back to being a scientist. That was in 2012.

Ben’s style of arbitrage selling was based on high volumes, and clearly it can be profitable. With good software and outsourcing, it seems like he found internet marketing’s holy grail of a “passive income”. So what’s the catch?

It’s a zero-sum game with a race to the bottom. Not everyone can make money doing the same thing. But arbitrage selling will continue to exist as a niche, run by people with the willpower and programming knowledge to do it. It’s like trading on the stock exchange, which still has arbitrage with fast frequency transactions, and we still have arbitrage in the betting markets. It’s exactly the same game and will always be there. It just happens to be doing it with consumer goods.

Ben is now working on making his software public, and free, using Amazon affiliate links to generate an income from it. The service, which will be at huge-river.com, will be able to create new eBay listings based on Amazon products. It will then check Amazon every hour and update the eBay listing if the price changes, or end the listing if Amazon goes out of stock. It will work for eBay and Amazon US and UK.

End to End Automation

So arbitrage can work, providing high customer satisfaction and generating a profit, but is it a “real” business? Generating a large chunk of income from a personal cash-back credit card, while profitable, doesn’t seem like a great business foundation. And crucially, if you are not adding any value to the transaction then there’s nothing to stop a competitor doing exactly the same thing, and a price war will soon begin.

To find out more I spoke to Doug Feigelson of Zinc Technologies, who make a software tool called PriceYak.

PriceYak calls itself “the most advanced repricer for eBay”, but what it really specializes in is – you guessed it – Amazon to eBay arbitrage. It’s particularly interesting because it automates more of the arbitrage process than any other tool out there, to the best of my knowledge. This is what it can do:

  1. Create eBay listings from Amazon products
  2. Reprice eBay listings when Amazon prices change
  3. Automatically order sold items from Amazon
  4. Post tracking information back to eBay when the order is dispatched by Amazon

Automatic ordering from Amazon is the biggest deal here, because nobody else does it (a notable exception is an Amazon buying API provided by Segemai Technologies).

Doug was also an arbitrage seller himself before getting into the software side:

About six years ago I was selling a lot on eBay, and realised I could do arbitrage from Amazon to eBay. I was learning software and could automate a lot of it. The part I loved about it was writing the software, and the part I hated was customer support and calling eBay when there were problems with the account.

With 200,000 listings on eBay, and over 100 orders per day, Doug was the seventh-largest bookseller on eBay. He had automated buying from Amazon, while other arbitrage sellers were limited by the need to place orders manually. With ordering taken care of, Doug found customer support was making the biggest demand on his time. Many eBay sellers will be able to identify with time-consuming problems like wrongly classified returns, policy violations, selling restrictions, and long calls with eBay seller support.

Having moved on from selling to software, Doug works with many arbitrage sellers. I asked him about the perception of Amazon to eBay arbitrage today.

It’s a very legitimate way to run an eBay business. There’s a niche real business there, and a whole aura around it of Multi-Level Marketing (MLM), and people just trying to get rich selling the information. We really hate that. It’s really annoying and very noisy. There’s a lot of people out there who are not looking to do any work, but it’s a real business and you need to put real work into it.

In terms of strategy, PriceYak’s sellers fall into two main camps. One strategy is to have a relatively small number of listings, perhaps a few hundred, and work on the titles, photos and descriptions, creating original content such as detailed buying advice. “Those guys get a lot of sales on the few listings they have”, explained Doug.

Margins can be as high as 20% above the Amazon price, although around 8% is more typical. On average, PriceYak’s customers sell about 1% of their inventory a day, so a seller with 1,000 items on eBay might get around 10 orders a day.

Another strategy is to list as much as possible. eBay’s selling limits can be a real barrier here, as they restrict the number of active items for sale, and can only be increased once a month. Sellers following this strategy will compile a list of popular products, and create eBay listings in bulk using an automation tool. A lot of sales can result, but margins are smaller and there can be a high demand for customer support. Some high volume sellers only break even, and make a small profit from credit card rewards.

So what’s the future like for arbitrage sellers?

Nothing’s permanent. Everybody knows that the niches come and go. Maybe they have a product category where they’re doing very well, but that usually won’t last more than a couple years. It shifts around. That being said, none of the really serious sellers are scared of the people who buy a get-rich-quick video and dabble with it. Those people are generally not committed enough to be a threat. The most successful sellers are not necessarily the ones with the most experience or talent, they’re the ones with the most commitment – the ones who’ll wake up every day and answer the support questions without fail.

It’s the more committed sellers that PriceYak serves, and it’s staying firmly in the area of Amazon to eBay arbitrage selling. Recently they improved the speed at which eBay listings can be created, and also introduced a blacklist of brands who have made VeRO trademark infringement claims on eBay against their sellers – so future listings featuring that brand can be avoided.

PriceYak has three software engineers working for the company full-time. On their site it’s not clear at first glance about what the software does, but it’s well known on forums for arbitrage sellers.

Amazon to eBay Arbitrage Selling FAQs

Isn’t it unethical?

Opinions differ. This form of arbitrage is similar to drop shipping – ordering direct from a wholesaler, but only when a sale is made. Like drop shipping, no stock is held by the seller. Drop shipping is well-established, widespread, and used by many well-known retailers, particularly for bulky and expensive items. Nobody thinks drop shipping is unethical.

But the key differences are that Amazon is a retailer anyone can buy from, and the arbitrage seller does not tell the buyer they will simply purchase the item from Amazon on their behalf. That’s what puts this type of selling in an ethical grey area.

Of course, you can argue that there’s nothing stopping the buyer from checking the price on Amazon themselves, and that’s true. And there’s no obligation on sellers to say if a better price is available elsewhere – it would be absurd to expect that.

Still, even with all the rational arguments going in its favour, Amazon to eBay arbitrage has an air of injustice about it. It’s so far removed from the way people expect a retailer to operate, that I doubt it will ever be seen by everyone as an honourable way to do business.

Don’t eBay buyers get upset when they receive their order from Amazon?

Yes, sometimes, but it doesn’t happen very often. In fact it’s surprisingly rare. Some arbitrage sellers refund the difference if a buyer complains, which normally prevents negative feedback and can be built into the cost of doing business.

One seller who uses this model, the_book_i_want, is a Top Rated Seller on eBay with 99.8% positive feedback. While they do have negative feedback from buyers who were boycotting Amazon, or felt cheated because they could have paid less, as a percentage of their total feedback it is very low.

Why don’t people buy from Amazon if it’s cheaper?

Most of the time, they just don’t look. There are many different buying habits, and checking prices on both eBay and Amazon isn’t all that common. Some will go direct to eBay, believing it will always have the best price. Others might compare prices, but a comparison between a high street store and eBay, for example, may favour eBay even if the product is actually sourced from Amazon and marked up.

Another possibility is that eBay’s Global Shipping Program makes a product available to an international buyer who is either not able to buy directly from Amazon, or who finds Amazon shipping to be prohibitively expensive. The buyer may know that the item is cheaper on Amazon but still choose to buy on eBay. The seller then arranges for shipping from Amazon to eBay’s domestic warehouse, and leaves it for eBay to arrange shipping to the buyer abroad. That’s how the Global Shipping Program works.

And finally, a buyer with a balance in their PayPal account (from the auction of unwanted gifts or hobby items, for example) may choose to buy on eBay to make use of their balance. While it’s more rational to withdraw the money then buy from the cheapest retailer, it might be more satisfying to spend the balance directly.

Won’t sellers get banned if they cancel orders?

Yes, if sellers cancel too many orders then eBay will limit their sales or even ban them completely. Using a repricer specifically designed for Amazon to eBay arbitrage addresses the risk of price changes happening before the sale is made. Once an item has sold the price is fixed, but there remains the risk of price changes on Amazon until the order is placed there.

Arbitrage sellers need to avoid order defects like any other eBay seller, so some will take a loss if Amazon prices go up before they place their order. Others will cancel the sale, and risk being penalized. Flawless automation of changes to price and availability, and automatic ordering, are the only way to mitigate the risk completely.

Don’t the description and photos belong to Amazon?

Yes, they might. Or possibly the first seller to list that particular product on Amazon, if they took their own photos. To avoid complaints, some arbitrage sellers write their own descriptions, and source photos that can be used more freely, such as the manufacturer’s.

Arbitrage sellers are unlikely to take their own photos, as they rarely handle the items themselves.

The Future of Arbitrage Selling?

Amazon to eBay arbitrage is much more common than most people think. Sellers who do it don’t advertise the fact, so they are difficult to identify. Perhaps they have feedback that mentions receiving a package from Amazon, or use Amazon images directly in their eBay description, but very few buyers would notice either.

But there is a bigger concept to arbitrage selling than just buying from Amazon and selling on eBay. Whenever there is a sufficient gap between the price that buyers will pay, and the price that a retailer will sell at, arbitrage becomes possible. Sometimes this will be in cross-border selling, with products that are expensive or unavailable in the buyer’s country. A listing on their local eBay site, in their own language, will make the product seem much more accessible.

Consider also that the source of products doesn’t have to be Amazon, and the target marketplace doesn’t have to be eBay. A seller could list on New Zealand’s TradeMe or Poland’s Allegro, but source products from Nordstrom or Walmart in the US. A forwarding service can handle international shipping if it’s not offered (or too expensive) direct from the retailer. Zinc Technologies already provides a flexible buying API with support for several different retailers, making it easy to automate the ordering part of the process.

Today, most would agree that Amazon to eBay arbitrage is a covert practice – those who do it certainly do not shout about it. But perhaps, in a few years’ time, we’ll see a world where every product, from every retailer, anywhere in the world, is available on every marketplace.

In that world, with all products available everywhere at a competitive price, exorbitant local prices will become impossible. All thanks to arbitrage sellers, once dismissed as shady middlemen, adding grease to the wheels of international ecommerce.

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75 comments on “The Truth About Amazon to eBay Arbitrage

  1. Margins can be as high as 20% above the Amazon price, although around 8% is more typical.

    According to my accountant, margins of 8% when selling on ebay equals a loss, when you remember that eBay & PayPal are going to take a bit or a bite.
    Also remember that breaking even means you are working for free.

    1. When it comes to saving money on a item, I will take the time and look at eBay! Amazon U.S. & Amazon U.K.! It depends what I am looking for. If DVDs I will look At Amazon U.S, But mostly Amazon U.K. for cheaper deals. I very seldom buy DVDs from eBay, because they are to many people selling pirated DVDs on there. Why? because eBay will not put a stop to it! Always check feedback on these sellers! If they have a lot of bad feed backs, or few sales, stay away from them! When I say few sales, I mean new sellers. If they are selling several DVDs at one time, especially new releases,some pirated DVD sellers will get a ton of bad feed backs, then open up a new eBay account to sell his ill gotten gain of his phony DVDs, elsewhere! I’m not talking about some small time seller who has a used DVD, they want to try and sale. I learned my lesson! Remember, if they are 1/2 the price of most sellers, and this item is suppose to be new, then it is probably to good to be true! Best Shopping to You! Regards!

  2. Andy – Thank you for writing this, I thought it was fascinating. I’ve had success in snapping up Amazon deals at rock bottom prices and then (manually) relisting them on eBay, and selling them at 50%+ ROI, but I have to wait months for the sale to occur. The practice delineated above smacks a little bit of day trading where time and speed is of essence, and (generally) total profits are slim. I do see the day when the entire process is automated with software/services but as those solutions become more accessible to more ‘traders’, the margins will get even slimmer.

    1. Thank you Jordan. Yes absolutely, it’s very much driven by technology. To make a real business out of it there has to be something that sellers do to differentiate themselves – develop their own software to give them an edge perhaps, or add value to their listings in some way. Otherwise they’re in the same boat as hundreds of others and the only way to compete is price.

  3. I don’t think it is a good idea. Like any other kind of drop shipping, you are taking a big risk by turning over any part of your customer contact points to a 3rd party. I do a very small amount of drop shipping with a trusted supplier with a good system, it rarely is as smooth as being able to handle problems and fulfillment from my end. Additionally, I really want to build long term customers (my measures show it takes 3-5 repeat orders on a marketplace to get them to come to my website) and doing this type of arbitrage play is not conducive to building a long term customer relationship.

    1. Well said Jack,

      I am looking for a legitimate way of earning extra money with selling on eBay but there are so many scammers which makes it difficult for me.

      I just keep searching maybe soon I will get lucky.

      Best

      Rob
      UK

      1. Hi Jack,
        I have a great training that i provide step by step how to get over 100+ sales daily on ebay. This is my main job.
        Let me know if you would like to know more about it.

      2. yes you are right!! Due to large number of scammers it is sometimes very hard to deal with the real customers. one of my customer was buying a phones as he do not have feedback but I put on the process!! the very next day pay pal warned me not to sell to the buyer and next day another customer without review order phone from me I waited till 2 days waiting for pay pal or eBay message but was genuine customer!!

  4. i have a few regular customers who always email “this order is for my friend, please do not enclose an invoice. if this is not possible, then please cancel my order”
    i always knew that they were using me as a drop shipper.

    i didn’t realise the scale of this practice until i read this article

    after reading this review I have just cancelled 12 orders today and told them not to use me as drop-shipper any more.

    it just causes me headache have so many messages from them and then to handle their order differently to the other orders.

    1. Why in the world would you turn away this huge opportunity? cancel 12 orders??? lol, I love my dropshippers that buy from me everyday for 3 years. about 10-20 orders a day come from my dropshippers that buy from my ebay stores and resell over on other markets.

    2. Who cares if they use you as a drop shipper? You’re still getting paid aren’t you?

      I don’t see what the big deal is…

      1. Exactly!! for past 3 years I’ve got about 3-6 various eBay buyers that buy from us. We dropship to their buyers everyday!! They bring in about 10-20 orders a day for us. It’s laughable that people would not see the huge value of this.

    1. Yes, Amazon is routinely closing accounts of people who drop ship. Typically it takes 3 weeks for Amazon to catch on then your account is toast.

      1. Rubbish, i was doing this for some time, the only thing Amazon won’t allow you to do is dropship with a Prime Account, i never once had my account closed and i did this for 6 months.

        1. HI! Kevin, I can’t see why Amazon would complain about Prime Accounts? Amazon doesn’t really give You any discount when You have Prime, if You look, they hike up the price on the Item for sale, so You are really still paying the shipping cost! So even though one has a Amazon Prime Account, they are not saving anything!

  5. “The seller may know that the item is cheaper on Amazon but still choose to buy on eBay.”

    Should it not be “The buyer may know…”?

  6. I just recently purchased a calculator on ebay for my niece. I recieved it in a surprising two days with amazon packaging. I didnt really care, but it did catch me off guard and make me aware of how easy this is to do. I am trying to start in this busness myself. So I am caught in between as both buyer and seller views. I want to be known as a legit seller and buyer, with good and ethical business activities. As i am just a beginner, I would like my business to grow with a good customer base. As with any real business, you must put it your time and effort to be sucessful. In todays world everyone wants to be millionaires overnight any way they can. So as far as the calculator goes, both sellers made money. I was a happer buyer who recieved it in two days. I left positive feedback to my seller. So my opinion is, as long as I get the product I ordered in a timely manner for the price I ordered it, who cares where it comes from.

  7. But if Amazon closes my account, is it possible to buy or open another one? I believer there are sellers who offer them like Auction Essistance, but is it legal?

    1. How do you deal with eBay’s title limit of 80 characters while Amazon allows 200 characters. Doesn’t that make it impossible to automate sending all your Amazon listings to eBay?

    2. You only need to get caught once and you’re history. No mor eBay, No more Amazon. Then what? It is not worth the risk?

      I was involved like yourself with ecommerce but gave it up after experiencing a sour and expensive experience with some dogy suppliers.
      Turned to affiliate marketing and not looked back.

      Promoting one program and advertising for FREE is feeding me well.
      If you’re interested here is the link:
      http://traxad.com/r/arty_AB1
      ID:artfulls

      Please feel free to drop me a line.
      rob.lailvaux@gmail.com

      Cheers

      Rob

    3. I’m retired and thinking of trying this on a small scale.
      Kind of a hobby for me . I’ve been selling on amazon for a long time .
      Nice to read what other people are doing .
      Be Safe
      Ken

  8. Though third party tools are somewhat touched upon, it bears mentioned most have to rely on Amazon’s web service API – and that has throttling in place (and very much enforced) to limit the number of queries that can be sent. Not impossible to do but not nearly as easy as people may realize.

  9. I may be interested in selling an eBay account. It only has 250 feedback at 100% but it was opened in the year 2000 so it does not have any selling limits. What do you think that would be worth?

  10. Hi , I hear people doing some good money with this

    I’, planning on buying stealth ebay account and then stealth buyer of amazon. Anyone here with experience in this. My worry is the withdrawing part from paypal – how would you do it and still stay stealth.

  11. Hi,
    I’m kinda new to this niche but i had some recent success with arbitraging on eBay/Amazon but finding products with attractive margins manually is pretty difficult. So i began to search for an online tool to automate this process and found an overwhelming amount of them.

    Anybody can advise which are the best? Anybody has experience with any of these:
    http://www.findspotter.com
    buy4sell.link
    http://www.nonozama.com

    Thanks guys,
    Uri

  12. I find prices on Amazon are way higher than ebay. I search out listings for certain projector bulbs on ebay. I buy up lots for $3-6/bulb. Single bulbs may sell on ebay for $8 – $20, but I can usually get $18-$40 for the same bulbs on Amazon. I make about $5,000 profit selling a few hundred bulbs a year. Even cell phones. I can sell the same flip phone on Amazon for $33-$40 that I can buy on ebay for $15-20.

    A used Samsung Convoy 3 can be found on ebay for $3 to $15, They sell for $25 and up on Amazon.

      1. Actually, over the course of maybe 8,000 orders, I can’t recall any of them wanting a discount because it was cheaper on ebay.

  13. This is from the eBay License Agreement (9.7-Restricted Activities):

    “9.7. Use eBay Services to promote or engage in seller arbitrage (for example, automatically re- pricing eBay listings in response to price changes on competitor sites, automatically ordering sold items from competitor sites, and posting tracking information to eBay when items purchased from competitor sites are shipped).”

    So if eBay says it’s not allowed, doesn’t that make it illegal?

  14. I have an eBay account, but just recently it has selling limits of 20 items a month on there. That isn’t enough. Do you think it would be a good idea to call in to get them raised or would it be wise to open up another account to get around the selling limits?

  15. I’ve heard not-so-good things about some of the big software companies in this niche, and I’ve been researching new softwares to automatically fulfill my orders, can’t believe this method works but it does.

    Anyone have experience with https://arbiship.com ?

    I’ve been using them for a while and they seem pretty good, it’s a big relief to have my orders managed automatically, and their support gives great advice that helped me grow my business. However I’m looking for an easy method to manage customer support also. Any advice?

  16. John Kelsar I tried Arbiship when they first started and it was a bit buggy. It ordered the wrong item 4 times and so I quit using them. I can’t afford that kind of loss. They may have fixed those issues I don’t know.

    If you do 3000 sales a month like I do you may not want to pay them $600/month. I think that is a bit outrageous. I don’t like paying a set or percentage of each sale.

    I use Inkfrog for eBay and Dropship N Paste (www.dropshipnpaste.com) to automatically fill in buyers address for my suppliers. It supports all of the suppliers I use like Amazon, Wayfair and Aliexpress and doesn’t cut into my profits but still helps me save time and fill orders much much faster. So I highly recommend that combo over Arbiship

  17. I personally never had any problems with Arbiship, joined the beta and it’s been working great since then. Your extension doesn’t do things automatically, it only pastes addresses, thats it :/ I still have to find the item, calculate profit, upload tracking, and items can go out of stock when im not near the computer, or I can send items to the wrong buyer when im doing 50 orders a day. no thanks

  18. Sarah, if you can’t handle 50 orders a day without sending a item to the wrong customer dropshipping is definitely not for you. The biggest problem with software like Arbiship is their limitations. It only supports Amazon and Walmart and Amazon prime dropshipping means you have to create new accounts and have multiple accounts using different credit cards and IPs to make it work – so I wouldn’t trust a piece of software to handle that automatically. I have purchased over 10million from Amazon so trust me I know what I talk about.

    I don’t have personal experience using Arbiship but there is no way in hell I would pay for any service that charges me per order, that is incredibly greedy! I am not even sure how we would add 25000 listings to arbiship so that it could auto-order. I assume it is intended to be used from day one as you scale?

    For over 5 years I have been dropshipping. I have 2 VAs and between the three of us we process 15000 orders a month and needless to say Arbiship would cost us way more than the VAs do. We do this all by hand, mainly because I hate greedy companies that want to steal profits from hard-working individuals. I would probably actually use dropship paste if I could buy it outright but the only monthly fees I pay are to Amazon, eBay and our repricers. Maybe i’m stingy but I have worked really hard for my money. For me to consider a fully automated ordering service it should be less than 5 cents a order and should work with way more than 2 suppliers.

    I’m not trying to knock either one of the services as I have not used them.

  19. Kevin it’s not like I do it every day, but human error happens.

    It’s kind of ironic how you say you hate greedy companies stealing from individuals but yet you do high volume Arbitrage. Lets do some math. 15000 orders per month is 500 per day, now lets say it takes you ~4 minutes per order including uploading tracking and calculating profit, that’s 33 man hours per day which means you must be paying your greedy VAs pennies for 12 hour work days. And then you have to manage them, make sure they don’t steal from you, and you also say you have to put in work your self. Even if you can manage an order every 3 minutes, that’s still 8 hours per person per day. If you work constantly without breaks and place an order every 3 minutes, in 8 hours you could place 160 orders, which means your time needs to be less than $4 per hour for this to work. If your time is worth $4 per hour then I think you are either exaggerating your success, are bad at math, or you undervalue your time. Placing orders manually causes me too much stress, and I can afford to pay it. maybe raise your profits

  20. Sarah, greed does not equal making money. Greed is where you are offering a very limited service and milking it for all it’s worth. Arbitrage doesn’t equal greed. There is much greed in it but it does not automatically make you greedy.

    I am amazed and how incredibly slow you are. 4 minutes to do one order? Are you kidding me? It never takes us more than 2 minutes to do a order from start to finish, with tracking upload. Tracking is very very fast, it is tedious but very fast. So with the correct figures, assuming all three of us do the exact same amount of work that would equal out to about 5.55 hours per day for each of us. But honestly one VA does the ordering 80% of the time and the other VA handles customer service and product research and creating new listings. I pay them $2500 on average a month (for both of them) and they do way more than your service can do. They do research, they are incredibly accurate and rarely make mistakes. They also can do ANYTHING I need whereas your service is limited to Amazon and partial support for Wal-Mart. So even if I wanted to fully automate that part of my business your service wouldn’t even touch most of my suppliers. So we aren’t arguing apples to apples here.

    As far as your ridiculous assertion that VAs steal, you obviously are as ignorant as you are slow. Filipinos are actually incredibly honest people. I fly them out to the US twice a year, I provide them with paid vacations, not because they demand it but because I appreciate their loyalty! They are NOT greedy people, they are very dedicated and loyal.. Ugh I hate ignorance. There is way more chance of a American ripping you off than a Filipino.

    If you want to try and convince me to use your service that is fine be my guest, no issues with that. But don’t start talking about things you have no clue about and most certainly do not trash my VAs because you want to prove your ridiculous point. I am very fair to them and they are nothing but good to me. And you have proven only one thing to me. You are a very slow person who struggles with stress when working.

  21. I think you need to work on your mathematics, its funny how you claim to do 500 orders a day but are so bad at basic calculations…

    Time = money. I prefer to raise my prices by a few cents so I can have more time and I let the robots do work for me, but if you want to work all day like a zombie then be my guest. Also there are breaks in between those 2 minutes

    Let me guess, you use your VA’s for repricing too? 🙂

  22. Sarah, if you bothered to actually read before replying you would understand things more clearly. I said in my first reply “the only monthly fees I pay are to Amazon, eBay and our repricers”

    You came up with the 500 figure so I used it. I do not personally do 500 orders a day. We do average 500 a day but the exact figure was yours not mine. I love how you say my math is wrong but don’t prove it.

    As far as being a zombie I average 8 hours a day, because I love to work. But most of my day is actually work unrelated to my dropship business. In the Christmas season we work much longer. But I also take 2 months a year off and travel and don’t work weekends.

    But you still don’t get it. Your service doesn’t even work with most of our suppliers. So I am doomed to be a zombie because your service is LIMITED which is what my original point was.

  23. As I buyer, I recently had a frustrating experience with a amazon-to-ebay arbitrage seller…..

    While it’s been my experience that most of these sellers tend to use ebay’s “Buy It Now” option, this one chose to list the item as an auction. I won the auction at a price considerably less than the Amazon price for the same item (I checked). The seller marked it as having shipped and provided a tracking number with Amazon Logistics as the shipper. The item never arrived, and the tracking status (via ebay) never updated

    When I contacted the seller, I was given a crude screenshot of what was supposedly the tracking history that showed my item was delivered. After communicating back and forth over the course of a week, I was finally given a refund and asked to provide positive feedback over how the transaction was handled.

    It is my belief that the seller purposefully did not ship the item because the selling price on ebay would have resulted in a loss. The communication that ultimately led to a refund was probably just an effort to make it appear like a legitimate effort to ship the product.

  24. I got banned on Amazon for a fraudulent dispute claiming they never received it. Forward all evidence to Amazon, but they still sided with the buyer. So I lost my money, the item, a hit on my account and now I just got notified that I am suspended.

    Tried those appeal services, but they didn’t work for me. I just recently got notified that I cannot appeal anymore.

    So I am looking for a way back on even tried to create a new account, but got suspended again.

    Do you recommend buying an Amazon account from sellers such as the Aspkin forums or Auction Essistance?

  25. Is it possible to purchase products from some online retailer and having that retailer ship directly to Amazon?

  26. Hi: I am just starting out with 200 listings on Ebay and looking for a simple to use repricer from Amazon to Ebay. Trying to avoid problem of items going OOS and price changes. Any suggestions?

  27. I will try priceyak too. I think Ive tried every other one out there, with little satisfaction. I was getting ready to go back to Infinii because it has the most accurate repricer that Ive found, but Im going to try this first. Thanks.

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